Documenting the Revelation 12 Sign Appearing September 23, 2017
"The disciples came to Jesus privately, asking, 'Tell us, when will these things be? And what will be the sign of your coming, and the sign of the end of the age?'" -Mat.24:3 They still come to Him privately today, with the same two questions. And for those to who have ears to hear He answers, - privately.
Stellarium shows the constellation includes all the elements of the sign above the horizon in Jerusalem between 11am-4pm.
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While Revelation 12 certainly describes some events occurring in the middle of the Tribulation, we need to pay careful attention to Revelation 12:3. When we say "Revelation 12 sign" we are really referring to thefirst"Revelation 12 sign" (woman clothed with the sun, moon at her feet, pregnant, and crown of 12 stars). Most people completely miss that the second sign, which begins in verse 3, is the only sign that is for sure identified with the middle of the Tribulation (dragon about to devour the child before the woman flees). The fact that there are two signs and not one is telling. Also, it is only after the woman is protected by God that the last half of the Tribulation begins (Revelation 12:6). Long story short: the sign in 2017 is primarily a sign to Israel marking the beginning of Jacob's Time of Trouble, though it is also a sign of the pre-tribulational rapture of the Church which must occur before that. For years some very prominent scholars have thought the sign in Revelation 12 was always the strongest proof of a pre-trib rapture.
The Pre-Tribulational Rapture MEET Dr. Michael Svigel. Associate Professor of Theological Studies at Dallas Theological Seminary
The following statements from My Digital Seminary were taken from the third of three interviews on the subject to reveal to you the reader credible and remarkable insight into Revelation 12:1-5 and what it means for humanity when it appears September 23, 2017.
The catching up of the male child and the resulting war in heaven both take place at the beginning of the 7-year tribulation. The war in heaven and casting down of Satan, followed by the earthly invasion, attempted attack on Israel, and the flight of the woman, all take place in the first three-and-a-half years. Then the reign of the Beast take place in the second half of the tribulation. Therefore, the catching up of the male child (the rapture) takes place before the seven-year tribulation. This becomes an excellent exegetical argument for the pre-tribulation rapture. Like very early premillennialists, like Irenaeus of Lyons (around A.D. 180) and Hippolytus of Rome (around 230), I hold that the seventieth week of Daniel 9:27 is a future period, not a period of the past. This period coincides with the expected tribulation period described in 2 Thessalonians 2 and Revelation 11–13. This was a common view of premillennialists in the early church, and I believe they were right.
The pretrib rapture is suggested in Matthew 24, but I don’t believe it is explicit. It is implied by the principle of the rescue prior to judgment when Jesus refers to the times of Lot and the times of Noah. Peter picks up these same images and uses them as an anticipation for a future rescue of the godly from “trial” in 2 Peter 2:6. The context is eschatological and the term peirasmos can refer to a time of “trial” or “testing” like the tribulation (1 Peter 1:6; Revelation 3:10). As far as Revelation goes, I do believe it is exegetically established in Revelation 12:5 and implied in Revelation 3:10. IN CONCLUSION: The Revelation 12 sign in the heavens (or "great wonder " KJV) will appear September 23, 2017 at precisely 10:30 am PDT or equivalent time of 8:30 pm Jerusalem time. The complete presense and perfect alignment of all the symbolic imagery has been traced back 6.5 thousand years in the past and 1000 years into the future via Stellarium software, and well documented on a spreadsheet. It is a one time event and will never occur again.The sign marks the season of the rapture for the church, and the beginning of the time of Jacob's trouble. The sign occurs on the EXACT same day as the feast of trumpets.
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By Daniel Matson - W a t c h f o r t h e D a y . o r g
On September 23, 2017 a sign forms in the heavens that fits the requirements of Revelation 12. As far as can be determined from computer models, this is the only time this sign will occur in history. Therefore, this would literally be the Great Sign of Revelation that is to appear in heaven.
The woman in heaven is Virgo–the Virgin. The sun is the sun “clothing Virgo” and the moon is actually under her feet. The garland of twelve stars are the nine stars of Leo with three wandering stars that have been situated within Leo at this time to make twelve. Those wandering stars are: Mercury, Mars, and Venus. The last element of the sign is that the Virgin must be with child. The planet or star of the Messiah is Jupiter. Jupiter at this time is in the womb of Virgo. Again, no replication of this sign has yet to be found.
The problem people tend to have with this sign is that all to often it is taken only as a symbol for what it represents and is not considered an actual sign placed in the heavens by God. The sign represents the birth of Messiah from the virgin of Israel, but it is to be taken as an actual sign to be seen and thereby understand the time at which a significant event occurs. The problem then is to determine where it occurs within the timeline of the end of days. That is, where does it occur in relation to the 70th Week of Daniel–the final period of seven years before Messiah comes to rule the planet. The solution lies within Micah 5.
In Micah 5 the timeline of the Messiah is given. First he will be born in Bethlehem and he is to be known as the one who will be ruler in Israel. When Jesus came he presented himself as the Prince on Palm Sunday, but then he was later crucified that week on Passover. He did not become a world ruler from Jerusalem at that time. Micah then says that Messiah will give them up “until the time that she who is in labor has given birth.” Forty days after the resurrection, Jesus ascended into heaven and ten days later the Church began and continues to this day. According to Micah, Israel’s remnant will return to the children of Israel only after she has given birth.
The sign of Revelation 12 is the sign that marks this time. It marks the transition from the Church to Daniel’s 70th Week. This sign appears in the heavens just two days after the Feast of Trumpets and likely the Rapture of the Church in 2017. All the qualifiers are there from September 23-25, 2017 for this sign, which comes 1,260 days after the first tetrad of April 15, 2014. However, the woman must give birth and Jupiter remains in the womb a few more weeks when it will then emerge. On November 13, 2017, Jupiter emerges and is joined in conjunction with Venus. This day also comes 444 days after their previous conjunction on August 27, 2016 that marks Jupiter’s entry into Virgo.
If November 13, 2017 marks the beginning of the significant spiritual return of Israel, then six days later marks what appears to be the beginning of the 70th Week of Daniel. This is done by counting 2,520 (7 x 360) days back from the Day of Atonement 2024. Now most prophecy students believe Israel signs the covenant with the Antichrist to begin the 70th Week per their understanding of Daniel 9:27. This author instead believes that this is Israel’s Covenant with God, which is strengthened by God himself showing the Israelis that all is back on track. During the transition from the Rapture to the beginning of the 2,520 days would be sixty days and it is believed within that time there is the fulfillment of Psalm 83 and Ezekiel 38-39. Only God rescues Israel from the war and Israel is said to recognize that fact.
With the Rapture occurring on the Feast of Trumpets and this war coming from the north, it should be clear to many Jews what just occurred. With an understanding of the Old Testament, it should be clear. Of course, that is why it is there. Paul speaks of the Gentiles provoking the Jews to jealousy. If there were a time to be jealous, to see a sizable segment of Gentiles (and some believing Jews) get taken in the Rapture to safety before the coming Day of the Lord would be it. It will mean that many Jews will get on track and believe. With 144,000 Jewish male witnesses found in the book of Revelation, it has been made clear that many in Israel will believe and preach the Gospel of the Kingdom. The seven years begin at a time of Israeli spiritual renewal. This is why Jesus warns Israel of the Antichrist by identifying the time of the Abomination of Desolation, which occurs in the middle of the 70th Week. That is the true moment of identification and time the Antichrist will control the land of Israel.
One roadblock in understanding the sign of Revelation 12 is by not understanding the layout of the book of Revelation. Chapter 11 takes the reader to the end of the seven years at the seventh trumpet when the earth fully becomes under Jesus Christ our Lord. Chapter 12 begins further detail on this coming time and starts back at the beginning. We therefore begin at this sign that represents Israel and the bringing forth of the Messiah. But the point is that this is a heavenly sign placed in heaven to show us when these things will begin. That is, the continuation of the salvation story through the nation of Israel.
Therefore, the sign of Micah 5 and Revelation 12 is an actual sign in the heavens that can be documented and it is yet future. It marks the time at which a true return of Israel will occur. It is not an accident that it comes right after the Feast of Trumpets–the time of the last Trump for the Church. This then means (along with everything else documented here on this site) that time is short for the Church. Will believers pay attention and do what must be done and make sure that they are sharing the gospel? The doors to the Church are still open for those who might believe in our Savior Jesus Christ. Only by believing and putting our trust in Christ will we escape what is soon coming upon the world. It is becoming pretty apparent what is soon coming. If one does not believe until after the Rapture, God’s grace will be sufficient, but it will not be without many perilous trials.
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